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Steve Davis

Beautiful Tribute to Thomas Anna! I was just thinking about the fact that it's been a year since he passed the other day. His passing was such a tangible reminder of how truly ephemeral our existence really is.

Your comments also reminded me of the "Spiritual Bypass" many seekers undertake. I tried that one myself and it didn't work very well! This is basically about taking the spiritual route to avoid resolving and healing your ego wounds. Of course this is an ongoing debate in the spiritual arena I think. Some traditions say, bypass away, the ego is all thoughtform anyway. I won't go any further lest I get into an intellectual debate with myself. Perhaps a good subject for the future.

Great work with your site and Adv. Communication Theme. Look forward to being part of it and look forward to our continued work on the www.AuthenticMarketer.com. I think many are hungry to truly integrate these advanced communication and spiritual concepts into how we do business.

Love,
Steve

Verna Wilder

Hi Anna,
My model for "mastery" is what I learned when I took Aikido classes years ago. Every beginning class was made up of students and black belts. At first I thought this was the standard arrangement, that the beginners would learn and the black belts were there to help us learn. But I found out later that they were there because they beleive that we are all beginners, and when they stepped onto the mat in black gee and black belt, they were there to learn, too. The beginners did, in fact, learn much from the masters, but they felt that they learned from us, as well. So we all entered into practice together. And "practice" was the key word. I like to think that our gifts and our willingness to practice and share those gifts is what brings us to "mastery." I didn't know Thomas, but I've met people who knew him, and whether they knew him well or only slightly, they were profoundly touched by who he is--by his gift of being present and creative and sharing. Would he have called himself a master of anything? I'm curious.
Thank you for this opportunity to discuss ideas with others. I look forward to more.
-Verna

anna

Thanks Steve and Verna for your comments. Steve, you bring up a difficult issue in spiritual circles. In Wiber's One Taste we read how we can go to higher levels of consciousness without ever healing or resolving ego level traumas and constrictions. Any one know people like that? We see lots of meditators who seem to experience deep peace when they are meditating but then return to everyday life with the same neurosis. Integral Practice is the practice of working with ALL the levels of being in relationship to yourself, others and the world. One way to avoid this difficulty.

And Verna, what an interesting analogy of mastery and Aikido. I'm aware of a book on embracing conflict using the Aikido principles. Do you remember the title? I think you are right about Thomas, he would not say he was a master...i dont think. But anyone could see how consistently he coached at advanced levels of communicating and relating. Susan, what do you think about mastery?

Sali Taylor

I think the book relating martial arts strategy to resolving conflict is The Magic of Conflict by Thomas Crum.
He and John Denver were good friends. Think TC lives in Aspen.

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